[grant0830]

I currently have a rate plan with AT&T that does not allow for the iPhone to be used with it. So my questions is with the plan set up under another phone and placing that SIM into a unlocked iPhone can AT&T tell that I am using an unlocked iPhone on their network?

[pokekid]

usually by the imei they can tell.

[Pineapple Devil]

yes, they have a program called snooper that can tell when it registers on your account. if you use the phone for a day and check your online account it will show the active phone as an iphone

[hartphoto]

Does snooper have the ability to tell if it's an unlocked iPhone?

Or just that it's an iPhone (because of a range of IMEI's that probably correlate to iPhones).

Not unlike MAC addresses for ethernet nics (for example), with a certain range belonging to different manufacturers.

[grant0830]

So what if from time to time you throw your sim back into another phone (not iphone) or are there ways around snooper?

[pokekid]

change its imei to another phones number and use it. better to just get the plan and less worrysome on att

[Pineapple Devil]

Originally Posted by hartphoto

Does snooper have the ability to tell if it's an unlocked iPhone?

Or just that it's an iPhone (because of a range of IMEI's that probably correlate to iPhones).

Not unlike MAC addresses for ethernet nics (for example), with a certain range belonging to different manufacturers.

no, they cannot tell that its unlocked but if anyone knows anything about the iphones they'll be able to see what plan you're on and figure out that its unlocked. honestly though, the majority of att employees are not into phones enough to know about it. they go based on the imei specific to that phone's model

[sinner1649]

oh yes they can tell, and they are starting to be really crazy about sweeping on accounts and such. I work for at&t , I see it all the time. What I have done is unlocked, jailbroken, and activated my iphone with ziphone. But the key thing I have done is changed my imei with ziphone. When you do that at&t has no idea you have an iphone and you can be on unlimited media net for $15. I also have the family text which also gives you the ability to use swirlymms. It's great! Works like a charm. In at&t's eyes I carry the lovely motorola v400.

[Pineapple Devil]

Originally Posted by sinner1649

oh yes they can tell, and they are starting to be really crazy about sweeping on accounts and such. I work for at&t , I see it all the time. What I have done is unlocked, jailbroken, and activated my iphone with ziphone. But the key thing I have done is changed my imei with ziphone. When you do that at&t has no idea you have an iphone and you can be on unlimited media net for $15. I also have the family text which also gives you the ability to use swirlymms. It's great! Works like a charm. In at&t's eyes I carry the lovely motorola v400.

and thats also illegal

[jlhull]

I have been using an unlocked iphone for over a month. I did not change the imei number. I don't have any data plan, because I just use wifi. at&t's website still shows my old phone. I gave my old phone to my husband, and it is also showing up under his phone number. Might just be a glitch, but they haven't updated mine yet.

[addertay]

Does it have the phone you are using for gophone customers in the account information? I switched to my iphone last week as i was stuck at an airport and had a gophone sim. I have since switched back to my nasty gophone ( i only use it occasionally as in my area we mostly have CDMA)

I know ATT could tell if they wanted to but if i could check its showing my old gophone again it would give me a little peice of mind.

( in case your wondering i typically just use my iphone as a touch.. had it for a while)

[sinner1649]

Originally Posted by Pineapple Devil

and thats also illegal

never said it wasn't

Originally Posted by addertay

Does it have the phone you are using for gophone customers in the account information? I switched to my iphone last week as i was stuck at an airport and had a gophone sim. I have since switched back to my nasty gophone ( i only use it occasionally as in my area we mostly have CDMA)

I know ATT could tell if they wanted to but if i could check its showing my old gophone again it would give me a little peice of mind.

( in case your wondering i typically just use my iphone as a touch.. had it for a while)

i wouldn't worry about it.

[grant0830]

Yes, the IMEI method is the only way to keep the big blue from sweeping accounts that have plans that are "not compatible" with the iPhone. As I was told they will simply de activate your service if you are trying to "cheat" the system. But, that could have been a scare tactic.

Anyway, I am waiting on ziphone unlock for 2.0 software, any idea when that will be out?