Alternative to iTunes GUI? - ModMyiFone.com - iPhone

Gazoo · #1 (**permalink**) 09-15-2007, 09:15 AM

Is there a GUI under development that would replace iTunes in managing music/movies as well as handling software updates?

I haven't tested it yet, but I would imagine iTunes wouldn't allow an upgrade/patch installation on a phone that has a T-Mobile SIM installed or a phone that hasn't been registered.

What do you all think? Or is there such an app and I'm too blind to see it?

pengcm · #2 (**permalink**) 09-15-2007, 09:24 AM

iTunes doesn't know which provider the iPhone belongs to.
However, there have been speculation that future iPhone updates WILL disable the current unlock methods. It is even possible they can "re-lock" the iPhone. Since one of the current software unlock method uses a buffer overflow exploit.

Honestly I don't know, it seemed to me that the buffer overflow thing was just a method to flash an on board chip.

If u want a REAL unlocked iPhone, prepare to solder 500 ball points!!

Gazoo · #3 (**permalink**) 09-15-2007, 09:31 AM

You kind of touched on what I was getting to. If we could use a third-party GUI to manage our music/video we wouldn't have to worry about an 'update' push that might lock the phone.

Also it will give us an option to install the latest update if testing shows no adverse effects on our current setup.

pengcm · #4 (**permalink**) 09-16-2007, 02:40 AM

There's is no forced update, u can always click "No"
The question is, will u want to? WiFi iTMS is coming soon.
As well as a whole slew of apple goodie in the future, remember, this will be the primary way for getting software onto the iPhone!

Though I imagine there will be other management systems for the iPhone, probably for Linux users. The idea is not too complicated, all they need to figure out is how to interface with the iPhone via usb. The file system is already been well studied. Besides that, they just need some kinda SQL for manipulating the database on the iPhone.

U can probably expect to see the first of them before the year ends, probably way before.

Gazoo · #5 (**permalink**) 09-16-2007, 02:45 PM

I mean, the file structure has to be the same, right?

It currently only works with the iPod. Seems like just a little tweak would be needed.

pengcm · #6 (**permalink**) 09-16-2007, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Gazoo

I mean, the file structure has to be the same, right?

It currently only works with the iPod. Seems like just a little tweak would be needed.

the basic file structure are the same, Unix style.
the key is where specific files are located, what folders, etc.
keep in mind that the iPod has been around for 6 years,
where as the iPhone has been around for 0.3 years. haha

benanzo · #7 (**permalink**) 09-17-2007, 01:31 AM

with the iPhone for awhile now. We just mount the iPhone's FS wirelessly via sshfs, load GTKPod and sync ...wirelessly. The current SVN version of libgpod (the backend that manipulates iTunesDB) has recently implemented full support for artwork, video, calendar, contacts, podcasts etc. for the iPhone, iPT. You can also use gnupod. In fact, with that I've written a script that runs on my phone that checks what wifi network i'm connected to and if it's my home network (where my computer is) it automatically initiates syncing. That means that whenever I get home, I don't have to sit down at my computer, or even take my phone out of my pocket -- everything syncs back and forth automatically. beautiful.

I'm currently in the process of porting libgpod to the iPhone environment so we can integrate over-the-air downloads into iTunesDB. That basically means we can then write a GUI frontend to bashpodder (podcast client) and automatically download/sync podcasts on-the-go.

My next project will be to get internet radio running...

Shoutcast on-the-go will be sweet.

pengcm · #8 (**permalink**) 09-17-2007, 02:24 AM

ha ha .. didn't know about the updates to libgpod .. significant!
I wonder if it does backup as well, how about firmware update?
Well, I guess it's easy enough to snatch one from somewhere and DIY =)
I actually haven't had a home computer with Linux for a while now.
U know ... the whole Mac thing worked flawlessly for me ..
Well .. me and my ex-buddy were gonna try to build gentoo over the summer .. lol .. don't wanna do it by myself ... handbook or no handbook =P

Gazoo · #9 (**permalink**) 09-17-2007, 08:34 AM

we Windows drones are left holding the bag.

loop · #10 (**permalink**) 09-17-2007, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benanzo

with the iPhone for awhile now. We just mount the iPhone's FS wirelessly via sshfs, load GTKPod and sync ...wirelessly. The current SVN version of libgpod (the backend that manipulates iTunesDB) has recently implemented full support for artwork, video, calendar, contacts, podcasts etc. for the iPhone, iPT. You can also use gnupod. In fact, with that I've written a script that runs on my phone that checks what wifi network i'm connected to and if it's my home network (where my computer is) it automatically initiates syncing. That means that whenever I get home, I don't have to sit down at my computer, or even take my phone out of my pocket -- everything syncs back and forth automatically. beautiful.

I'm currently in the process of porting libgpod to the iPhone environment so we can integrate over-the-air downloads into iTunesDB. That basically means we can then write a GUI frontend to bashpodder (podcast client) and automatically download/sync podcasts on-the-go.

My next project will be to get internet radio running...

Shoutcast on-the-go will be sweet.

I just registered specifically because of this post.

HOLY COW.

Now I'm irked- I had a beautifully functional Gutsy install running really smoothly until the day I bought an iPhone... and I reinstalled Windows.

Is there a site that details your process? I'd be very eager to try to get this working!!!

Thanks for your efforts!

iPhoneHero · #11 (**permalink**) 11-09-2007, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benanzo

with the iPhone for awhile now. We just mount the iPhone's FS wirelessly via sshfs, load GTKPod and sync ...wirelessly. The current SVN version of libgpod (the backend that manipulates iTunesDB) has recently implemented full support for artwork, video, calendar, contacts, podcasts etc. for the iPhone, iPT. You can also use gnupod. In fact, with that I've written a script that runs on my phone that checks what wifi network i'm connected to and if it's my home network (where my computer is) it automatically initiates syncing. That means that whenever I get home, I don't have to sit down at my computer, or even take my phone out of my pocket -- everything syncs back and forth automatically. beautiful.

I'm currently in the process of porting libgpod to the iPhone environment so we can integrate over-the-air downloads into iTunesDB. That basically means we can then write a GUI frontend to bashpodder (podcast client) and automatically download/sync podcasts on-the-go.

My next project will be to get internet radio running...

Shoutcast on-the-go will be sweet.

i just pooped my pants. :O
i wish i was a linux nerd to get this working for me.

i would love wireless syncing.

Imahottguy · #12 (**permalink**) 11-11-2007, 08:08 PM

Gazoo: I'm sure that you've heard of MediaMonkey? If not go to their site MediaMonkey.com and download the client. They can sync pretty much anything to the iPod. As well as other DAP's or PMP's (Whichever you prefer). The only thing that it couldn't sync was videos (I don't know as I never owned an iPod). But yeah, def check it out!

EDIT: Apparently, until they release MediaMonkey ver 3, iPh iPt support has been put on the back-burner. If we had the ability to enable 'Disk Mode' then we could sync easily. Unfortunately, Apple hasn't given us that ability yet. Kinda sucks...