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Old 06-06-2008, 09:56 PM
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Another day, another new tidbit on iPhone 3G

So apparently the latest firmware got leaked/found, this firmware contains some information regarding the hardware its working on, which leads to some pretty down-to-Earth assumptions of what we'll be seeing on Monday. Here's the rundown:

* Infineon PMB6952 / S-GOLD3 six-band UMTS / HSDPA transceiver (as we'd heard)
* Murata LMRX3JCA-479 tri-band amplifier (we're assuming for the 3G)
* Sony SP9T antenna switch for GSM / UMTS dual mode
* ARM 1176JZF-S - Main CPU (same as in 1st gen iPhone)
* Skyworks 77427 chip - UMTS / HSDPA tx 1900MHz, rx 2100MHz
* Skyworks 77414 chip - UMTS / HSDPA 1900MHz
* Skyworks 77413 chip - UMTS / HSDPA 850MHz
* Internal build model number: n82ap (1st gen iPhone was model m68ap)
* UMTS Power Saving option - on or off
* Hooks for Global Locate Library (GLL), software that handles A-GPS related commands for the host processor

For those that don't care about the guts and want just the rundown of things:
1- It has 3G, but it won't work with T-Mobile's 3G (different range)
2- It doesn't have true GPS, but A-GPS which is better than locate me, but it still uses cell towers to transmit/receive data.

[via engadget]

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Regarding GPS and 3G:

3G: T-mobile US (not sure about UK) indeed uses 1700mhz. Thats the "official" frequency of that band, even if it uses 2100mhz also. iPhone will not support 1700.
A-GPS: Ok, I jumped the shark on this one before realizing what A-GPS really is, user boeselhack explains is below:

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in my point of view it has REAL gps.
a-gps means "assisted gps", look here:
Assisted GPS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

that means the gps chip is assisted by the carriers networks to get a better and quicker positioning. so i think it's even better than "normal" gps.

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Old 06-06-2008, 10:11 PM
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Awww man, I wanted it to work on T-Mobile
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damn. no real gps.
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That's bad for no real GPS, this just means that other phones like N95 can compete. Thanks for the information though
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1- It has 3G, but it won't work with T-Mobile's 3G (different range)

T Mobile US or T Mobile UK, can someone please clarify.

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no gps is going to make people not want to buy this phone......... no gps is going to make me think a little if i want to buy the phone or not.... its one of the major things i was looking forward to in the new iphone!! i hope the gps hardware is wrong!! haha it must of been a typo....
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no gps is going to make people not want to buy this phone......... no gps is going to make me think a little if i want to buy the phone or not.... its one of the major things i was looking forward to in the new iphone!! i hope the gps hardware is wrong!! haha it must of been a typo....
If it does NOT have GPS,I will buy it anyways. Becaurse it will be thinner and I hope it gonna have bigger display though..
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i believe: it has real gps

in my point of view it has REAL gps.
a-gps means "assisted gps", look here:
Assisted GPS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

that means the gps chip is assisted by the carriers networks to get a better and quicker positioning. so i think it's even better than "normal" gps.
what do you mean?
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If they would just enable all bluetooth profiles I could just use it with my bluetooth gps receiver!
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that means the gps chip is assisted by the carriers networks to get a better and quicker positioning. so i think it's even better than "normal" gps.
that's tight. but i never really used the "locate me" feature, which in a decently big city worked pretty well.. so gps isn't that big of a deal to me.

3G is though. dial-up internet speeds kill me. i feel like im in the 90's.
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Won't work on T-Mobile... Shoot me. And no real GPS? Wow, buzz-kill.

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Won't work on T-Mobile... Shoot me. And no real GPS? Wow, buzz-kill.
And I just read on Engadget that their trusted source who played with the 3G iPhone that there is no front-facing camera, ie no iChat... So will the new iphone have any new features other than just 3G? I mean, hopefully the GPS will be REAL GPS. And I guess video recording. I don't know... I'm still pissed it won't work on T-Mobile.

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i totally anticipated that it wouldn't work on t-mobile's network, which is why i picked up the current iphone. so satisfied with it......and as for GPS, that's why i bought the tomtom one
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i totally anticipated that it wouldn't work on t-mobile's network, which is why i picked up the current iphone. so satisfied with it......and as for GPS, that's why i bought the tomtom one
So are you guys saying the 3G won't work with T-mobile or the phone itself?

Just need some clarification. I know the software was supposed to be the same so it could be unlocked/jailbroken.

I'm not getting the iPhone 2 anyways, just wondering.
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I am sure it will work..its just the matter of time though
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